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		<title>By: H</title>
		<link>http://www.carryology.com/2010/01/27/anatomy-of-a-good-bag/comment-page-1/#comment-8143</link>
		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike
I am with you. I have been looking for a long time for a good practical and comfortable satchel. Not easy. 
There are some solutions as Ando mentioned. And hopefully we will see them applied out there. So much emphasis is place on backpacks! There a some amazing bags on the market. however satchels seems to improve very very slowly.

My main frustration with satchel is the comfort. It kills my back to carry them around for too long. The only one I found good was the old Crumpler strap system. When the foam was built in and wrapped around the shoulder. They have changed it for a worse solution. This is when designers just want to design something new, and not for the health of the product. Satchel are a prime victim of this. Every brand do the same bag, but no one question if what they do is better.

There a lot to do in this area and I hope you will find one. If you do please post it on this blog and share your precious found. 
H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike<br />
I am with you. I have been looking for a long time for a good practical and comfortable satchel. Not easy.<br />
There are some solutions as Ando mentioned. And hopefully we will see them applied out there. So much emphasis is place on backpacks! There a some amazing bags on the market. however satchels seems to improve very very slowly.</p>
<p>My main frustration with satchel is the comfort. It kills my back to carry them around for too long. The only one I found good was the old Crumpler strap system. When the foam was built in and wrapped around the shoulder. They have changed it for a worse solution. This is when designers just want to design something new, and not for the health of the product. Satchel are a prime victim of this. Every brand do the same bag, but no one question if what they do is better.</p>
<p>There a lot to do in this area and I hope you will find one. If you do please post it on this blog and share your precious found.<br />
H</p>
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		<title>By: Ando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
some interesting points. I think you have a great feel for where items should go to maximise space. Bear with me on this response, as I might have a solution or two…

We agree:
We reckon that the most under-utilised part to messengers is the sides. If you put a roundish object like a water bottle or power pack in the front of a messenger, it bulges out and wastes all the space beside the item. If it goes in a side pocket, you hardly notice its there.

And while we don&#039;t really use maps anymore (thanks Mr Jobs), there&#039;s not much other than maps or a magazine that suits the flap of a messenger.

Your options:
I can see why you haven&#039;t yet bought that Timberland satchel. It looks a bit tech-ugly. Have you seen Patagonia&#039;s Half Mass and Critical Mass messengers? With a side pocket and flap section, they might suit your pocketing brief: http://www.patagonia.com/web/eu/shop/luggage-shoulder-bags?k=1G-an

But they are still only single strap messengers, so I would not want to carry it for 8 hours. If you are after access on the go, with extended carry periods, the most innovative solution we have seen is from Decathlon. Excuse the terrible ad (Euro&#039;s can be so stylish, and so not…), but check their Wed&#039;ze Reverse One system in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_Jrw_HlXU

It&#039;s a really clever solution for giving backpacks the accessibility of messengers. While the packs are a little basic, the system is really clever: http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/reverse-one-brown-87987825/

Hope that helped with some ideas,
Ando</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
some interesting points. I think you have a great feel for where items should go to maximise space. Bear with me on this response, as I might have a solution or two…</p>
<p>We agree:<br />
We reckon that the most under-utilised part to messengers is the sides. If you put a roundish object like a water bottle or power pack in the front of a messenger, it bulges out and wastes all the space beside the item. If it goes in a side pocket, you hardly notice its there.</p>
<p>And while we don&#8217;t really use maps anymore (thanks Mr Jobs), there&#8217;s not much other than maps or a magazine that suits the flap of a messenger.</p>
<p>Your options:<br />
I can see why you haven&#8217;t yet bought that Timberland satchel. It looks a bit tech-ugly. Have you seen Patagonia&#8217;s Half Mass and Critical Mass messengers? With a side pocket and flap section, they might suit your pocketing brief: <a href="http://www.patagonia.com/web/eu/shop/luggage-shoulder-bags?k=1G-an" rel="nofollow">http://www.patagonia.com/web/eu/shop/luggage-shoulder-bags?k=1G-an</a></p>
<p>But they are still only single strap messengers, so I would not want to carry it for 8 hours. If you are after access on the go, with extended carry periods, the most innovative solution we have seen is from Decathlon. Excuse the terrible ad (Euro&#8217;s can be so stylish, and so not…), but check their Wed&#8217;ze Reverse One system in action: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_Jrw_HlXU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_Jrw_HlXU</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really clever solution for giving backpacks the accessibility of messengers. While the packs are a little basic, the system is really clever: <a href="http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/reverse-one-brown-87987825/" rel="nofollow">http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/reverse-one-brown-87987825/</a></p>
<p>Hope that helped with some ideas,<br />
Ando</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep looking for a messenger bag that has an acceptable number of internal divisions and sealable pockets, PLUS external mesh pockets.

Speaking to the mesh/webbing pockets, I want
1. a sealable pocket on the flat outside surface to hold stuff like maps
2. at least one side pocket to hold wetware like a waterbottle or small umbrella.

One of the internal pockets should be appropriate for holding perishable/squashable content like fruit or treats for my dog.

The only one I&#039;ve found close to requirements was a Timberland messenger bag at a store in Amsterdam. I hated the orangey-colour which stained very easily. I don&#039;t have a picture of it, but just for reference, their current offering is http://tinyurl.com/timberlandmessenger

The intent is to use this as my main day bag and it may be carried for up to 8 hours at a time. I have an awful time trading off the load-balancing ability of a backpack vs the easy accessibility of a shoulder-mounted bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep looking for a messenger bag that has an acceptable number of internal divisions and sealable pockets, PLUS external mesh pockets.</p>
<p>Speaking to the mesh/webbing pockets, I want<br />
1. a sealable pocket on the flat outside surface to hold stuff like maps<br />
2. at least one side pocket to hold wetware like a waterbottle or small umbrella.</p>
<p>One of the internal pockets should be appropriate for holding perishable/squashable content like fruit or treats for my dog.</p>
<p>The only one I&#8217;ve found close to requirements was a Timberland messenger bag at a store in Amsterdam. I hated the orangey-colour which stained very easily. I don&#8217;t have a picture of it, but just for reference, their current offering is <a href="http://tinyurl.com/timberlandmessenger" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/timberlandmessenger</a></p>
<p>The intent is to use this as my main day bag and it may be carried for up to 8 hours at a time. I have an awful time trading off the load-balancing ability of a backpack vs the easy accessibility of a shoulder-mounted bag.</p>
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		<title>By: ando</title>
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		<dc:creator>ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobe,
make sure you send us a copy of your thesis when you&#039;re finished. We&#039;ll post the best bits on the site and share it with all our other carry addicts. In the meantime, we&#039;ll keep trying to send some inspiration your way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobe,<br />
make sure you send us a copy of your thesis when you&#8217;re finished. We&#8217;ll post the best bits on the site and share it with all our other carry addicts. In the meantime, we&#8217;ll keep trying to send some inspiration your way.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i totally like your blog and iam so happy about all the topics. Iam a designstudent from germany and doing my master thesis about bags and finding a better way to carry ;)
so i need your blog for inspiration. and i like to know ALL your problems about carrying.. THANKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally like your blog and iam so happy about all the topics. Iam a designstudent from germany and doing my master thesis about bags and finding a better way to carry <img src='http://www.carryology.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
so i need your blog for inspiration. and i like to know ALL your problems about carrying.. THANKS</p>
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		<title>By: Ando</title>
		<link>http://www.carryology.com/2010/01/27/anatomy-of-a-good-bag/comment-page-1/#comment-5650</link>
		<dc:creator>Ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha,
the world of child carrying! Thanks Karen, I think we should do a post on that soon, as there are a lot of brands doing it poorly (and our 3 mnth old is going to need something more than a Baby Bjorn soon).

The disappointing thing is that trekking packs have been doing a great job of giving access on the go, so the baby brands just need to look over the fence.

The most complete system we&#039;ve seen for access on the go is from a small Kiwi inventor called Aarn. He has a &#039;bodypack&#039; system that tries to balance loads better between front and back. Really thorough supporting research from one of the world&#039;s great carryologists: http://www.aarnpacks.com/

But seeings as he doesn&#039;t make a baby carrier, you might be able to add a better waist belt with those feature on it. Stores like MEC and REI in Nth America have loads of clip on features like this belt: http://www.rei.com/product/762916 or these sort of holders: http://www.rei.com/product/799338

And then maybe we can submit a request to one of the trekking brands…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha,<br />
the world of child carrying! Thanks Karen, I think we should do a post on that soon, as there are a lot of brands doing it poorly (and our 3 mnth old is going to need something more than a Baby Bjorn soon).</p>
<p>The disappointing thing is that trekking packs have been doing a great job of giving access on the go, so the baby brands just need to look over the fence.</p>
<p>The most complete system we&#8217;ve seen for access on the go is from a small Kiwi inventor called Aarn. He has a &#8216;bodypack&#8217; system that tries to balance loads better between front and back. Really thorough supporting research from one of the world&#8217;s great carryologists: <a href="http://www.aarnpacks.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aarnpacks.com/</a></p>
<p>But seeings as he doesn&#8217;t make a baby carrier, you might be able to add a better waist belt with those feature on it. Stores like MEC and REI in Nth America have loads of clip on features like this belt: <a href="http://www.rei.com/product/762916" rel="nofollow">http://www.rei.com/product/762916</a> or these sort of holders: <a href="http://www.rei.com/product/799338" rel="nofollow">http://www.rei.com/product/799338</a></p>
<p>And then maybe we can submit a request to one of the trekking brands…</p>
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		<title>By: Ando</title>
		<link>http://www.carryology.com/2010/01/27/anatomy-of-a-good-bag/comment-page-1/#comment-5644</link>
		<dc:creator>Ando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
spot on.

3D mesh is like MP3 portals on backpacks – it&#039;s one of those things that almost every brand copies, despite the fact that they suck.

The best I&#039;ve seen is on a Herman Miller Embody chair. They have a mesh that breathes yet is soft to the skin. It&#039;s a knitted mesh over a perforated foam, and I wish some bag companies would copy it really soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
spot on.</p>
<p>3D mesh is like MP3 portals on backpacks – it&#8217;s one of those things that almost every brand copies, despite the fact that they suck.</p>
<p>The best I&#8217;ve seen is on a Herman Miller Embody chair. They have a mesh that breathes yet is soft to the skin. It&#8217;s a knitted mesh over a perforated foam, and I wish some bag companies would copy it really soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting points I just bought a backpack to carry my 8 month son  (the most precious cargo in the world) while bush walking, not many designs to choose from and most of them only had one pocket one lousy pocket underneath the compartment to hold the baby which means you have to take the pack off to get to the pocket. it would be so much better if they had clips or slim zippered pockets on straps so I could have easy access to water bottles and baby snacks.

Bellroy any chance of a kickarse baby transport bags for active mums?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting points I just bought a backpack to carry my 8 month son  (the most precious cargo in the world) while bush walking, not many designs to choose from and most of them only had one pocket one lousy pocket underneath the compartment to hold the baby which means you have to take the pack off to get to the pocket. it would be so much better if they had clips or slim zippered pockets on straps so I could have easy access to water bottles and baby snacks.</p>
<p>Bellroy any chance of a kickarse baby transport bags for active mums?</p>
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		<title>By: David Sassaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sassaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another one I would add is about the material on the back of the pack and straps. 

Most bags have a 3D mesh that scratches bare skin really badly. I hate this! I live in Queensland, and wear my pack without a shirt on hot days, and that stuff nails me.
Can&#039;t they invent something better? Even just wetsuit neoprene or something soft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another one I would add is about the material on the back of the pack and straps. </p>
<p>Most bags have a 3D mesh that scratches bare skin really badly. I hate this! I live in Queensland, and wear my pack without a shirt on hot days, and that stuff nails me.<br />
Can&#8217;t they invent something better? Even just wetsuit neoprene or something soft.</p>
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